A few posts back, I posted a picture of my Kel-Tec Sub-2000 carbine and extolled its virtues as a ‘trunk gun’. Well, it’s an even better trunk gun now.
Voila! Gone is the boxy stock plastic fore-end and goofy plastic front sight post in favor of a light weight, aluminum Red Lion Precision railed fore-end and a Bushnell TRS-25 red-dot sight. A Limb-Saver recoil pad has also been added along with a rubber cheek pad on the buffer spring assembly and a 33 rnd factory Glock 9mm magazine.
Below is a closer shot of the fore-end and Bushnell red-dot.
Sure looks cool, PP, but hold up a second. You said that one of the advantages of the Kel-Tec sub 2000 was that it folded in half for storage. How can you fold your modified Sub 2000 with that red-dot sight sitting on the rail?
Oh, I forgot to mention the best thing about the Red Lion Precision fore-end: it rotates! In the above picture, note the two knurled rings. A quick turn of the forward ring loosens the rail and allows the user to rotate it to any number of indexed positions. Reversing the procedure returns the fore-end to its indexed position and a perfect hold on zero! Although the picture below is slightly blurry, you can see the fore-end rotated 90 degrees clockwise and locked. How cool is that?
The final pic shows the rotated fore-end, Bushnell still mounted and perfectly zeroed, now folded in half!
How awesome is that?
The red Lion Precision fore-end was approx $140 and well worth the money. I’ll probably add a flip-up front sight for peace of mind in case the Bushnell goes south or runs out of juice. This carbine now fits in an inconspicuous normal sized laptop case or carry bag. The mind just boggles at the possibilities.
Be Safe. Be Prepared.
About a year ago, I bought a Kel-Tec Sub2000 at a gun show. The Sub2000 is a light weight, fold-able, pistol caliber carbine. This particular version utilizes ubiquitous 9mm Glock 17 magazines. My intent was to use the Kel-Tec as a ‘trunk gun’. Now, this term has lots of meanings to lots of people, but to me it means a gun I could conceal (legally) in the trunk of a car, or in my case, the rear seat/storage area of my pick-up truck as a back-up weapon to my daily carry should the situation warrant. If you think this is ‘excessive’ or ‘over the top’ – you’re reading the wrong blog or you’ve never been in a ‘civil disturbance’ ( spelled R-I-O-T). I live near Miami, FL and have seen several.
At the range, the Sub2000 exhibited reasonable accuracy, but impeccable dependability. Right out of the box it ate FMJs and JHPs with aplomb and without a jam or misfeed. It shot about 6 inches right and 3 inches high at 50 yards with the somewhat ‘cheesy’ red plastic vertical bar sight in an equally cheesy plastic ring on the front of the barrel which also serves as a locking device when the carbine is folded in half. Basically, I like the gun, and having now fired it, thought it could serve the purpose, that of a trunk gun, quite well – if I made a few improvements.
In a post later this week, I will show you the improvements I made to the Kel-Tec. I think you’re gonna like it!
Be Safe. Be Prepared.
Practical Prepper 2013
Arrived at my favorite target range this morning at 7:20 and got a few hours alone with my new Kel-Tec SU-16 CA and 250 rounds of .223. I’ll have a written report this week, but for now, enjoy a video report of my range experience with the nifty, black carbine.
I brought with me 2 AR-15 30-rnd magazines with 25 rounds each and two 100-rnd. boxes of Federal.223 from Wal-Mart. Affixed to the rail of the SU-16 CA was a Vortex Strike Fire red dot sight. When I finally got set up, I slipped in a 30-round mag and let the bolt go to chamber a round. I aimed dead center on the circular target at 50 yds and observed that the round struck the paper about a foot low and 2-3 inches to the right. Hmmm… a foot low at 50 yds is pretty far off. I suspected that I mounted the sight incorrectly but did not have the time to remove it, check the alignment, and re-mount the sight as the skies were rapidly darkening – bearing out the forecast’s 60% chance of rain. So, three shots at a time, I ‘walked’ the point of impact up the target until I ran out of adjustment when the point of impact was centered left to right, but still about 2 inches low.
My optics woes notwithstanding, the Kel-Tec performed flawlessly, It ate all 250 rnds. of Federal and Remington .223 without a single issue. By the end of the session, the SU-16 was shooting fairly tight groups at 75 yards, despite the optics difficulties. Although I did initially miss the pistol grip found on AR models, I got used to the ‘rifle’ feel of the Kel-Tec in short order. It is extremely light, at under 5 lbs, and very ergonomic. The checkering on the handguard and stock provides a nice surface for a solid grip on the carbine while shooting. I cannot report on the ‘iron’ sights of the Ket-Tec SU-16 CA as I had to remove the rear sight to affix the Vortex sight.
A few words about the ‘controls’. The safety is located just behind the trigger where the trigger guard meets the stock and takes some getting used to before it can be activated and deactivated without looking. The magazine release is in the conventional spot just forward of the trigger. Some folks have complained about the placement of the release button between two screws just above and below it, but I did not find the location confusing or annoying in any way. The SU-16 does not have an AR-style bolt release lever. Instead, the open bolt is made to slide forward by pulling the bolt lever back slightly and releasing it. It too, took some getting used to, but I actually have come to like this arrangement better than the AR bolt release – just personal preference, though. The trigger pull was smooth and did not require too much effort. It broke smoothly at what I would guess to be about 6-7 lbs. – somewhat less than my AR-15 before the trigger job.
All in all, I found the Kel-Tec SU-16 to be a joy to shoot. It feels great tucked into your shoulder, is reasonably accurate (this will improve, no doubt, when I get the sight mount adjusted), and fired all 250 rounds without a hiccup? And all this for under $600 including the transfer fee, what’s not to like.
Be Safe. Be Prepared.
Just got back from my local gun emporium with a carbine I’ve been waiting for for several months now. I’ve been looking for another .223/5.56 carbine to back up my AR-15. This Kel-Tec SU-16CA fits the bill as a versatile back-up carbine – and then some. I’ll be dong a full review next week – after I’ve added an optic and put a few hundred rounds down range.